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Tennessee-Memphis II - This Time, It's Personal

The most important player in the Tennessee-Memphis rivalry won't suit up tonight, but Jarnell Stokes' presence will be felt in the FedEx Forum. Whatever passion departed from this matchup when Bruce Pearl left town was instantly replaced when the soon-to-be-Vol spurned the hometown Tigers and signed with Tennessee two weeks ago. You'll have to excuse Memphis, because they're not used to losing the best player in their city to the boys from Knoxville. Maybe this will encourage their fans to encourage Josh Pastner to continue playing this game.

We've already seen it once this year, a 99-97 double overtime barnburner in Maui that remains one of the best games of this young college basketball season. The Tigers won that round to pull the overall series to 14-9 Tennessee, but both teams have been disappointed since then with their inability to get that one big win.

At 7-6, the Vols don't make the Memphis resume at the moment, which means the Tigers will almost certainly have to win the Conference USA Tournament to make the big dance. Like Tennessee, the Tigers have been close with several Top 25 teams, but continue to come up short: an overtime loss in Maui to Georgetown followed by an eleven point loss in the return bout on December 22; a twelve point loss to Michigan in Maui, and an eight point setback at Louisville. And like us, they also fell victim to the mid-major upset bug, though at 14-0 I'm not sure how much of an upset it is when Murray State beats you.

But this game matters not just for Tennessee's momentum heading into SEC play on Saturday, but for this rivalry and for Cuonzo Martin. If the Vols can pay Memphis back after stealing Stokes, they'll continue to tilt the balance of power in this thing toward Knoxville, and Martin would earn his first big win. A win tonight would mean a lot to both teams in a lot of ways.

After the jump, we breakdown the Vols and Tigers and see what we can learn from the first meeting to the second.

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Last Time

On November 22 in Maui, a day after the Vols played well but lost to Duke and Memphis lost by a dozen to Michigan, the Tigers looked to run away from Tennessee early. The Tigers led by as many as sixteen in the first half and were still up ten at the break. But then it became the Jeronne Maymon show, as the Vol power forward came alive and dominated in the paint, finishing with 32 points, 20 rebounds (9 offensive), and 16 of 17 at the free throw line. Maymon scored in the final seconds of regulation to get the game to overtime.

But Memphis stayed alive and eventually won the game with strong shooting, going 51.4% from the floor in a double overtime affair. Freshman Adonis Thomas was strong with 19, but Will and Antonio Barton really killed the Vols, finishing with 46 combined including four threes from Antonio.

While Memphis was hitting big shots, the Vols got sloppy: Trae Golden played particularly poorly at 3 of 19, and in the overtimes poor decision making really hurt Tennessee. The Vols had three turnovers in the final three minutes of the first overtime, which helped erase a four point lead. And two turnovers in the final two minutes of the second overtime allowed Memphis to stay in front, and Jeronne Maymon's final shot fell short.

This Time

College Basketball

Here's what's interesting: Tennessee stayed alive against Memphis the first time at the free throw line, going 30 of 37 (81.1%). But other than the Oakland game (20 of 28, 71.4%), the Vols haven't really made it their business to get to the line. Those are the only two games where Tennessee got the line at least 25 times; in the last seven games since the Oakland loss, Tennessee averages just 13 free throw attempts per game.

That's largely a byproduct of Tennessee's offense, which, oversimplified, is "shoot threes and get offensive rebounds."

Tennessee is taking 22.8 threes per game, and just jacked 39 of them against Chattanooga, the second highest total in school history. The good news here is the percentage in general (38.0, 55th nationally and 3rd in the SEC) and Skylar McBee specifically (46.2%, 38th nationally and 3rd in the SEC). McBee was just 1 for 1 from the arc in the first Memphis game, playing only thirteen minutes. But he now averages 19.2 minutes per game, and has seen most of the late game action in the last month at the expense of Jordan McRae, which is a tribute to McBee's defense as well.

The bad news here: Memphis actually shoots the three better than Tennessee. Will Barton and Adonis Thomas have done most of the damage, both at over 41%, but Memphis usually puts a lineup on the floor where almost everyone can knock it down. The Tigers shoot 39.2% as a team averaging 14.9 per contest. In Maui, they hurt the Vols with great shot selection, going 6 of 9 from the arc.

So the most important things Tennessee can do this time:

  • Start fast...or just, you know, start at all. The Vols have had a bad habit of falling behind early. They did it against Memphis in Maui, and they had a couple of near misses in the last month because they weren't awake against UNC-Asheville and ETSU. The Vols will need a good start to help quiet the hostile crowd.
  • Don't forget about Maymon and the free throw line. After Maui we had thoughts of Maymon being an All-SEC type player. But since then, he's only hit double figures three times in ten games. It's good that the Vols have figured out how to win without him in full-on beast mode, but can we get the guy more shots? He's attempted just four shots in the last two games, and had just six attempts in the three before that. We know he can hurt Memphis, and while it'll be interesting to see how out of their way they go to stop him, Tennessee's gameplan certainly needs to include more of him, and more play that gets to the free throw line in general.
  • A better defensive effort. Consider the competition, but after playing poor defense during the losing skid from Duke to Charleston, the Vols certainly stepped it up in their four game win streak: Asheville shot 44.9%, ETSU 40.7%, Citadel 39.3%, and UTC 34.5%. We spend most of our time talking about threes and the consistency of Trae Golden, but the biggest change in Tennessee has been on the defensive end, and that has to make Cuonzo Martin happy. If Memphis shoots over 50% again, the Vols will have to be hot from the arc (or get another monster game from Maymon) to stay alive. Tennessee's chances of winning are much better if they continue to bring a strong defensive effort and make Memphis work harder for what they get. With the Tigers' athleticism and talent, it'll be a challenge for all five Vol defenders on the floor. But it's a leap this team needs to be able to make to win this game, a one that could show exactly the sort of progress they need to make to compete in the SEC.
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There is a lot of frustration

and questioning of Partner’s ability to coach, and there has been distractions with Joe Jackson. If the Vols stop Barton, you will win the game and create a big firestorm that’s brewing here in town. All the radio talk has been don’t worry Memphis will win out the rest of the games on talent, but everyone knows that in sports, it’s a combination of talent, coaching, heart, and guts when the rubber hits the road. Memphis has a lot of doubt.
I think it going to be a disappointing year for Tiger and Grizzley fans here in the city.
Good luck Vols, you can definitely win this game. Put it on them.

I still think they'll be okay in C-USA

Southern Miss might be good, and UCF has some talent, but Memphis still feels like the class of that league once again. Of course, anything can happen in the conference tournament and at this point, even if they beat us tonight, I’m not sure running the table in the league would be enough to get them in on an at-large basis.

I love the way the Grizz play though. The Bulls loss was really ugly I know, but there’s no shame in who has beaten them so far. They’ll get it going again.

Its a little misleading when you read the Stokes story without looking at who Memphis had already landed.

Memphis had already signed Shaq Goodwin, who has almost the identical measurables at the same position in the same class. The 2 are even practically the same rank with Stokes being 18 and Goodwin 19 per espn. Then when you factor in Memphis has another highly touted recruit in PF Tarik Black thats a sophmore it wouldnt really make sense for Stokes to choose memphis. He would be in a war for PT there.

This all may be true

and it’s certainly true from Stokes’ perspective…but Memphis wanted him, and fans in the city certainly did. The Vols were heavily criticized for taking Dane Bradshaw over Lee Humprhey back in the day. It’s certainly a perception loss for Memphis, and if Stokes is as good as advertised, hopefully several reality losses as well.

Fans probably wanted him, but

Memphis probably had a good idea that they would only get 1 of the 2. When they landed Goodwin, I dont think they expected Stokes at all. It might be a perception loss for the people who dont follow recruiting, but its not surprising at all to the memphis staff or the fans in the know. Of course if they didnt have Goodwin, and TN landed Stokes, that’s a different thing all together.

And memphispete says, welcome to my world, RTT fans

Even though Memphis lost a 5-star recruit to the Vols, a hated instate basketball rival, it “really wasn’t a loss at all” because “we are so full of” talent that it really doesn’t matter anyway.

Yes, Memphis fans are full of it. But, we see these same rationalizations from SEC schools in football, except the SEC schools in football are better than Memphis is in basketball, so the comparison breaks down there.

Despite our modest basketball history and Memphis’ ridiculous delusions of grandeur, we still own Memphis in basketball. And, that makes it fun to be a Vol in this big little town called Memphis.

killjoy
It's Memphis.

Of course it’s killjoy.

also

hold onto the ball. The reason Memphis got that 16 point lead—and the reason they ultimately won, as you pointed out—was turnovers. Last time, Skylar was a huge culprit, and they pressed whenever he was in the game. We need to be able to handle that this time

The main reason Tennessee stayed in the game

was the insane amount of foul trouble the memphis bigs were in. Tarik Black literally barely played which lead directly to Maymon having his huge game as Memphis had to put Witherspoon(basically a really tall guard) on him.

Congrats Will

Mike Griffith trolled you on twitter over this post.

I saw that

clearly not a fan of Jaws 4.

(Sidenote: I like Griffith – reading/listening to him I think he has the best feel for basketball at KNS)

I think he's pretty bad.
Why are we criticizing the launching of 3's?

The eFG is 57%.

For Memphis fans, that translates the 38% 3FG into an equivalent, pound-it-in-the-paint 2FG%. If that’s still too difficult to understand on the math front, call a UT grad and get them to explain it to you.

An eFG of 57% is pretty effective from the floor, as long as we hit them. With no real bigs (and against SEC competition, Maymon, Yemi and Hall will be more challenged), shooting open 3’s and playing defense isn’t a bad idea from Coach.

It's not really criticism

it’s more curiosity…like we all kind of expect us to stop shooting them so well

As long as we stay confident

and Zo doesn’t undermine them the way Pearl apparently did, then we should be fine as we really do have guys who can shoot.

My use of the word “criticism” was too strong.

undermine?

que?

I think we get dragged

Boy I hope I’m wrong.

At the FedEx Forum, probably so. They are a different team at home.

Which makes the #2 vs #1 upset by Pearl even more impressive (and even more shameful to Calipari and the Memphis Tigers).

I don't think Memphis is particularly good...

in fact, I’d be shocked if they actually make the NCAA Tournament this season unless they win the C-USA Tournament.

Of course we’re not very good either.

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