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Tennessee Lady Vols @ Alabama, 9 PM EST

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January 26, 2012
Tuscaloosa, AL
9:00 PM EST

TV: FSN
Internet Audio: Lady Vols Network
Live Stats: GameTracker
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14-5 (5-1 SEC)
#7 (AP)
#9 (USA Today)
#2 RPI

10-10 (0-6 SEC)
NR (AP)
NR (USA Today)
#181 RPI

No online television for this game tonight as Tennessee gets a chance to vent against an overmatched SEC opponent. A loss is unthinkable and would signal that all is going as the Mayans have foreseen. In more realistic waters, the focus of this game is how the Lady Vols respond to their recent embarrassment in South Bend. Do they take over the game early and prevent an underdog from having hope? Or do they come out flat and allow Alabama to hang around a little longer than they should. Either way, it's a road game, and Tennessee has not been particularly consistent on the road.

Star-divide

Position Name Experience Height PPG RPG APG
lady vols logo G Meighan Simmons So 5-10 10.9 2.6 1.7
P Glory Johnson Sr 6-2 14.0 9.6 1.1
PG Ariel Massengale Fr 5-7 7.9 2.5 5.2
G-F Shekinna Stricklen Sr 6-2 14.9 6.4 2.0
F Alicia Manning Sr 6-1 4.6 4.7 1.6
Alabama Logo G Jasmine Robinson So 5-7 11.9 2.9 1.8
G Meghan Perkins Jr 5-11 9.3 5.3 1.6
F Kyra Crosby Jr 6-1 8.8 4.2 0.4
G/F Erin Hogue Jr 6-0 5.1 6.4 0.4
G Khristin Lee So 5-9 4.9 3.4 2.8

There's not much to say here. Tennessee needs to win, and win big.

Prediction: 92-59 Tennessee.

BassWatch™: 8 minutes left in the first half. There will be blood.

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Comments

Something to remember going in to Alabama

My view of Holly’s comments after the ND loss and why we leave Time Outs on the table to our detriment

HOLLY claims it was defense – but it was not
Happy to help you out Holly – let’s look at those first half stats that had you all worried about defense

Tennessee hits 7 or 35 shots in the half and 4 of 10 free throws
TOTAL FG% 1st Half: 7-35 20.0% F Throw % 1st Half: 4-10 40.0%3-Pt. FG% 1st Half: 0-2 0.0% 2nd Half: 3-6 50.0%
25 Johnson, Glory…… f 3-12 0-0 3-10 3 6 9
LSU held to 35% in the first half and out-rebounded enough to offset several turnovers
and allow UT 4 more shots.
TOTAL FG% 1st Half: 11-31 35.5% 3-Pt. FG% 1st Half: 2-6 33.3%

So Holly looks at these stats and says

Warlick had compiled 1½ pages worth of notes regarding Tennessee’s 72-44 loss to Notre Dame. And the Lady Vols’ associate head coach only had gotten through her
team’s first-half play on defense.http://www.govolsxtra.com/news…-notre-dame-an/

SO LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT FIRST HALF SHALL WE?
Glory Johnson misses 7 of 10 free throws 2 were front ends
and hits 3 of 12 in close shots
but she was playing hard? TOO HARD? 27 points Glory left on the floor. 27 points
of layups and missed free throws.
19:50 Shekinna Stricklen missed Two Point Jumper. 0-0
19:31 Ariel Massengale Steal. 0-0
19:05 Meighan Simmons made Two Point Jumper. 2-0
18:48 Glory Johnson Turnover. 2-2
18:37 Glory Johnson Steal. 2-2
18:19 Glory Johnson missed Two Point Layup. 2-2
18:10 Glory Johnson Defensive Rebound. 2-2
18:05 Meighan Simmons made Two Point Jumper. 4-2
17:42 Glory Johnson Defensive Rebound. 4-2
17:25 Meighan Simmons missed Two Point Jumper. 4-2
17:18 Glory Johnson Defensive Rebound. 4-2
17:00 Alicia Manning missed Two Point Jumper. 4-2
16:48 Glory Johnson Defensive Rebound. 4-2
16:12 Glory Johnson Turnover. 4-2
15:55 Alicia Manning missed Two Point Jumper. 4-4
15:24 Glory Johnson missed Two Point Layup. 4-6
15:24 Alicia Manning Offensive Rebound. 4-6
15:24 Alicia Manning missed Two Point Jumper. 4-6
14:56 Shekinna Stricklen Turnover. 4-6 .
14:40 Meighan Simmons Turnover. 4-8
14:28 Shekinna Stricklen Defensive Rebound. 4-8
14:14 Shekinna Stricklen made Two Point Jumper. 6-8
13:49 Ariel Massengale Steal. 6-8
13:45 Meighan Simmons missed Two Point Layup. 6-8
13:37 Glory Johnson Defensive Rebound. 6-8
13:29 Ariel Massengale Turnover. 6-8
13:14 Shekinna Stricklen Defensive Rebound. 6-8
13:01 Glory Johnson missed Two Point Layup. 6-8
12:52 Shekinna Stricklen Defensive Rebound. 6-8
12:26 Meighan Simmons missed Free Throw. 6-8
12:26 Meighan Simmons made Free Throw. 7-8
12:15 Foul on Shekinna Stricklen 7-10
12:05 Shekinna Stricklen missed Three Point Jumper. 7-11
11:44 Meighan Simmons missed Two Point Layup. 7-11
11:44 Vicki Baugh Offensive Rebound. 7-11
11:38 Vicki Baugh missed Two Point Layup. 7-11
11:38 Shekinna Stricklen Offensive Rebound. 7-11
11:38 Shekinna Stricklen missed Two Point Layup. 7-11
11:38 Vicki Baugh Offensive Rebound. 7-11
11:35 Glory Johnson Offensive Rebound. 7-11
11:24 Glory Johnson missed Free Throw. 7-11
11:18 Glory Johnson made Free Throw. 8-11
11:01 Meighan Simmons made Two Point Layup. 10-13
11:01 Meighan Simmons made Free Throw. 11-13
10:49 Ariel Massengale Defensive Rebound. 11-13
10:42 Meighan Simmons missed Two Point Jumper. 11-13
10:42 Meighan Simmons Offensive Rebound. 11-13
10:27 Shekinna Stricklen missed Two Point Layup. 11-13
10:04 Meighan Simmons Turnover. 11-13
9:22 Glory Johnson missed Free Throw. 11-16
9:22 Vicki Baugh Offensive Rebound. 11-16
9:22 Glory Johnson missed Free Throw. 11-16
9:00 Cierra Burdick Steal. 11-16
8:42 Vicki Baugh missed Two Point Jumper. 11-16
8:42 Cierra Burdick Offensive Rebound. 11-16
8:18 Vicki Baugh made Two Point Layup. 13-16
7:52 Meighan Simmons missed Two Point Jumper. 13-16
7:11 Glory Johnson missed Two Point Layup. 13-18
6:50 Glory Johnson Steal. 13-18
6:46 Glory Johnson made Free Throw. 14-18
6:46 Glory Johnson missed Free Throw. 14-18
6:38 Vicki Baugh Defensive Rebound. 14-18
6:27 Taber Spani missed Two Point Jumper. 14-18
5:41 Taber Spani missed Two Point Jumper. 14-20
5:33 Glory Johnson Block. 14-20
5:14 Foul on Glory Johnson 14-20
4:56 Ariel Massengale missed Two Point Jumper. 14-21
4:36 Taber Spani Defensive Rebound. 14-21
4:28 Vicki Baugh made Two Point Layup.. 16-21
4:09 Cierra Burdick Defensive Rebound. 16-21
3:56 Shekinna Stricklen Turnover. 16-21
3:21 Cierra Burdick missed Two Point Jumper. 16-23
3:11 Vicki Baugh Defensive Rebound. 16-23
2:55 Vicki Baugh missed Two Point Layup. 16-23
2:35 Shekinna Stricklen Steal. 16-23
2:27 Ariel Massengale missed Free Throw. 16-23
2:16 Taber Spani Defensive Rebound.
2:07 Glory Johnson made Two Point Layup. 18-23
1:48 18-26 Skylar Diggins made Three Point Jumper.
1:38 Glory Johnson missed Two Point Layup. 18-26
1:12 Glory Johnson missed Two Point Layup. 18-26
1:09 Cierra Burdick missed Two Point Layup. 18-26
0:42 Tennessee Full Timeout.
0:28 Cierra Burdick missed Two Point Jumper. 18-26
0:03 18-27 Skylar Diggins made Free Throw.
0:03 18-28 Skylar Diggins made Free Throw.

Anyone taking a close look at this situation will not come back and say our biggest problem
was poor defense in a half where ND was held to 28 points on 35% shooting. Our biggest
problem wasn’t in running an offense to get the ball inside to Glory and Vicki or Alicia – our
problem was Glory and Alicia missing open inside shots, and Glory missing free throws.
If Glory just hits those missed layups and free throws we are leading at the half
14 Missed Layups in the first half 28 points left on the floor 6 missed FTs and 3 front ends add 9 more for 37
We could have been leading 55 to 28 if we just hit free throws and layups

Just thought you might like to know

My takeaway from the first half was missing a whole lot of easy shots.

And once that happened, they got frustrated and started making real mistakes. But they did miss a lot of shots that they almost never miss.

Full agreement

Why not call a Time Out and get them to calm down and focus on those 14 or more missed layups? It was a problem of rushed frenetic unfocused real effort without results that led to a great deal of frustration and a blow out

1:03 in and it's 7-0 UT.

Good. Put ’em away and go for the jugular. In the first half.

Woah.

Starting lineup is: Bass, Baugh, Burdick, Massengale, Johnson.

Weird. Best ballhandling guards on the floor. Not turning over must be the priority.

Bass starts over Meighan?
Ball handling.

Bass is actually pretty good at it.

Second Alabama timeout, and we haven't even reached the first media timeout.

Wowzers.

And that was when the action was dead after a turnover (Baugh 3 seconds in the paint).

Alabama’s giving up early.

3 seconds on a player with the ball?

I recall that 20 second situation at ND where we missed 6 layups. We had three players under the rim for 20 seconds.

3 second calls are horribly inconsistent in the women's game.

I’ve seen 5 or 6 seconds not get called, and I saw a ONE second call.

I thought the 3 second rule

was for post player without the ball before the ball is shot

In theory.

Not that the women’s refs care about such details.

We would never think about that
Man... it's kinda nice to enjoy what appears to be a massacre...

in our favor.

Versus a rival.

First two misses, and it's all offensive rebounds until the score and the and-one.

We’ll see if Johnson makes the FT after the timeout. (chuckle)

In case anyone is actually curious...

Ken Pomeroy actually has us beating Auburn by nearly double digits, with an 80% chance of winning. Followed by a 20 point loss at Kentucky(5% chance of a win).

And the whole reason I went there… Murray State is nearly at 50% to finish undefeated now.
And only ranked #40. The OVC is really weak this year, with Austin Peay probably being the 2nd best team in it.

Looks like the staff is sending a message to

Kinna and Meighan?

Yup.

I was about to say that Stricklen might be getting a day to heal, but she just checked in.

So UT hasn't scored since Glory checked out.
And here's Simmons.
So the committee's answer is weird lineups?
Well, start any random 5 and you can still beat Alabama.

This is a lineup based on sending a message to the players who AREN’T starting.

watching this Bama team...

I’d say there are local HS teams that could beat them.

And I’m not being facetious. Seriously, I think Bradley Central and Science Hill could take Alabama.

Possibly.

BTW, are you watching on TV or have you found a net feed?

TV

SportSouth via Dish Network

6 for 6 start, then a 3 for 13 follow-up. Eegh.
Now it's picking up a bit.

Let’s get 40 by halftime, m’kay?

Still, it was a bad sign that Tennessee went scoreless for 3 minutes as soon as Glory checked out.
Mickey is not a fan of these refs.
Simmons, Baugh, Johnson, and Stricklen all with 2.

Come on, Ariel! You can join the “usual starters with 2 fouls” club!

Yeesh.

Good thing it's Bama with these refs
No kidding.

Not about to hold this against the players on either team.

RAHSPEC' MAH AUTHORITAH!

Good grief, refs. The game isn’t about you.

That's at least 4 consecutive possession with a foul.

UT, UA, UT, UA.

Then turnover and another foul.

I’d guess that 3 of those were warranted.

(not necessarily the ones on Alabama)
Alicia - that 'lay up' never had a chance !!!
Another bizarre line up
Simmons must really be in the doghouse
Now it's because of the players that have 2 fouls.

(Simmons has 2.)

Clarity: Summitt has always held players on the bench if they have 2 first half fouls.

She’s not about to change that pattern against Alabama.

So 1 more foul each on Ariel and Alicia

and we could be playing 4 on 5?

heh
There - Alicia got hers

come on Ariel

She was only on the court for 2 minutes - missed that
9 assists, 3 turnovers.
Surprised Alabama's coach isn't a former...

football player under Bear Bryant

2 fouls on Manning now.

Now I’m almost hoping for 2 on Massengale. (And on the radio cast, you could hear some random coach complaining about having 21 combined fouls in the game already.)

Manning's still in.

I guess every rule has its breaking point, and ensuring that Glory doesn’t get her 3rd is the priority.

With this many fouls, UT ought to bleed clock every possession.

Odds are the refs will call a foul on Alabama out of boredom.

24 in the half so far

what’s the record?

I don't know.

I remember a men’s game that got up to 50 in regulation a couple years back. When UT had something like 13 players available.

23 fouls called now.

This is getting comical.

Hey, wait.

They’ve already passed their total against Notre Dame!

gg

Big downside: Alabama's shooting over 40%.

Part of that is the foul trouble that UT is having. The best defenders aren’t in there.

3 on Manning.

Oy.

47-32.

Not quite blood for the blood god yet but the hyperactive refs kinda destroyed any semblance of an actual game.

Records for fouls

Most personal fouls, both teams, game:
77 – Minneapolis (42) vs. Syracuse (35), April 23, 1950

91 fouls is the NCAA Men’s Basketball Record and NCAA Division II Men’s Basketball Record.

Northern State had 51 fouls (an NCAA record for a single team in a game) vs Southern Indiana (with 40 fouls) in a triple overtime game on November 15, 1997

The Division I Record: 84 fouls between Arizona (50) and Northern Arizona (34) on January 26, 1953

The Division III Record: 80 fouls between Grinnel College, IA (46) and St. Norbert College, WI (34) on January 8, 2000

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_most_fouls_committed_by_both_teams_in_an_NCAA_basketball_game#ixzz1kcix686Q

Women's

Division I regulation record of 68 FT attempts set by Pittsburgh and Eastern Kentucky on Dec. 30, 1986.

That was Bruce Pearl coached Southern Indiana team
Stats, fwiw.

Also: 13/4 A/TO for UT. 4/8 A/TO for Bama.
Alabama's trying the win via forfeit strategy

Section 1. The Team
Art. 1. At the start of the game, each team shall consist of five players, one of
whom shall be the captain.
Art. 2. Each team may continue to play with fewer than five players when all
other squad members are not eligible or able to play.
Art. 3. When there is only one player participating for a team, that team shall
forfeit unless the referee believes that both teams have an opportunity to win.

Really?

I thought that if a foulout left a team with only 4 players, that player could remain in despite having 5 fouls. (But that all previous fouled-out players were still out of the game.) I think that happened to Syracuse (men) a couple years back in a multi-overtime game.

That's the NBA and international rule...

Thinking anything beyond the sixth foul on a player results in two FTs plus the ball

Score to watch: Vandy leading Georgia at halftime.

If Georgia loses, UT has a two-game lead on all non-Kentucky teams is is effectively guaranteed no worse than 2nd in the conference. That’s a big deal come SEC tourney time. No Kentucky on a neutral court until the final game, which almost guarantees a long tourney run. That pretty well guarantees a 2 or 3 seed in the NCAA.

Bass started both halves with a three.

Happee.

Wish I could be happy

but starting Bass is not a good sign anytime despite the threes IMHO

Not the best of starts to the half.
how that wasn't a foul in some way is astounding

especially considering how the game has been called

there we go

ticky tack hand-check

Refs are Felicia Grinter, Wesley Dean, and Bill Larence.

I really ought to keep a file of the refs I don’t trust.

Long long list I suspect
Kantor & Bell used to top my list when I paid attention
I agree about Dee.

Totally.

There's 2 on Ariel.

This is plaid.

Alabama now has a higher FG% than UT.

(Well, prior to that shot.)

And Glory & Kinna are actually hitting layups!!1
Cierra needs to pull the trigger on those open 3's
Lady Vols offense is all kinds of discombobulated right now

also, discombobulated apparently gets through spell check

As well it should.
Glory hits another layup under control
Too bad that has to be notable
Ok, now it's over.

Shame it took until Alabama ran out of gas for it to happen, though.

Like the running

Glad to see them looking to push it. We seem quicker down the court.

bigger picture:

After the ND debacle, they needed a game to put that one behind them. Next up is Georgia in Athens, which is a much bigger deal than tonight. Rough play tonight doesn’t necessarily mean anything. It could just be a wounded-pride team still thinking about the last one. (It could also be a sign of a dysfunctional team, which is a realistic concern.) But either way, it’s the Georgia game that will tell us about the current state of the team.

Trap game

And still up by 23. The state of the union is good.

Agreed.

Really wonder what’s going on inside this team.

A loss of some trust in the committee?
Maybe.

Certainly the injuries have hurt.

Taber seems to be snake bit

when turf toe and a bone bruise ruin a career

UGA losing to Vandy tonight

I think we go undefeated in the SEC from here on out and the tournament will come down to us vs KY in the final.
But an Elite 8 or Sweet 16 is more realistic than a final four

Just turned on the broadcast

Who’s coaching? Is Pat up and active, or no?

the committee is managing the game

led by Holly I think

Manning hits a layup and Miko playing well
get the number on that truck?
Thought it was a tank
77 - 51.

Need to hold UA to only 8 more points.

Liking Miko in there
Her best performance of the year

with so few appearances – glad to see she’s back

Wonder if

there is a “we’re going to play the ones that show up” message going on.

Oops

This was a reply to the Miko thread above.

Sans Bass sub Ariel and this is next year's team

on the floor

Hey Simmons

The interior player was open.

The color commentator is clueless

what “killer instinct”?

Wow - what a block!
Izzy is playing pretty well
We'll be in decent shape next year.

Not championship winning shape, I don’t think, but not first-round exit shape either.

I'm pulling for UT to score 7 more and Alabama to score 6 more.
Your prediction is looking pretty good.
My predictions are usually pretty far off.

I don’t put much thought into them anymore, so it’s really a SquirrelNut™ kind of deal.

GameTracker rosters are horked up.

Tennessee has Diamber Johnson, Chantel Hilliard, Gaynor Darriel, Fomille Candace, and Tyrese Tanner on the roster.

???

Fomille has a heck of an outside shot
Georgia will lose. They're trailing by 20 right now.
Hmm

If we played the ones who work the hardest, who would that be?

I'm thinking

Johnson, Harrison, Miko for starters.

Sounds good.

Kamiko’s only hangup has been conditioning. She gets winded too quickly.

Restin' and whippin the balance into game shape...
Add in Spani

If she can get healthy.

I think she'll get some time next week.

Not sure if it’ll happen against Georgia, but she’s close. Just no sense in rushing it.

Even Stephen on rebounds (40 apiece).

We took 16 more shots, and we didn’t have Glory in for most of the game. But still.

Hi guys what'd I miss-

—fouled by 12 players

Snap thoughts:

- I like rolling new starters in a game that was never really in doubt to send a message. On stats, it looked like it got through to Stricklen, at least – 5-9 in 15 minutes looks like the offense ran through her.
- If Simmons is in the doghouse due to bad shot selection ….um, well, see you next year.
- Bass had 5 steals(!!!).
- I still hate any Bass/Massengale lineup, but if you’re gonna do that to prove a point, this was the time to do it.
- Massengale had 11 assists, at least.
- Obviously, I don’t like the defense / board numbers (40% from the floor for Bama, matched boards), but given the other confusion, I can at least see it. Betting that’s back to normal next game.

Well, given that the refs called fouls until they ran out of fingers and toes (23 or 24 in the first half, IIRC),

I can partly understand the defense giving Alabama a bit more room.

Bass: she doesn’t turn the ball over. Check out her A/TO while you’re at it. If replacing Simmons with Bass means more ball control, more deliberate shot selection, and roughly the same shooting percentage, the argument actually makes more sense. Simmons gives fast breaks and some stellar defensive moments in conjunction with her questionable actions, so it’s not like it’s a clean argument. But rolling out the Arial/Brianna line meant an A/TO of about 3.8 for most of the first half. I wasn’t complaining much.

(And no, I’m still not arguing for Bass over Simmons. I’m just realizing the logic a bit more than I used to.)

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