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January 19, 2012
Knoxville, TN 7:00 PM EST TV: CSS / ESPN3 Internet Audio: Lady Vols Network Live Stats: GameTracker |
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Tonight is another Teacher/Student match in the SEC, with Pat Summitt facing Nikki Caldwell at LSU for the first time. LSU/Tennessee was the best SEC rivalry during the first decade of the 2000s, but has slipped as of late due to the decline of LSU under Van Chancellor. In this first match, Caldwell is dealt a bit of a short hand as the talent on the team is not where it once was (more on that in a bit). In the meantime, the trollgaze lands squarely on Lady Tigers fans we at Tennessee (okay, just Chris and me, but still) see this as Caldwell's first time coaching in her eventual destination as the heir apparent to the Summitt throne.

| Position | Name | Experience | Height | PPG | RPG | APG | |
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G | Meighan Simmons | So | 5-10 | 10.4 | 2.5 | 1.7 |
| P | Glory Johnson | Sr | 6-2 | 14.5 | 9.8 | 1.1 | |
| PG | Ariel Massengale | Fr | 5-7 | 8.2 | 2.6 | 5.4 | |
| G-F | Shekinna Stricklen | Sr | 6-2 | 15.5 | 6.4 | 1.9 | |
| F | Alicia Manning | Sr | 6-1 | 4.8 | 4.8 | 1.7 | |
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F | LaSondra Barrett | Sr | 6-2 | 12.5 | 6.6 | 2.5 |
| G | Adrienne Webb | Jr | 5-9 | 8.4 | 4.0 | 1.2 | |
| F | Courtney Jones | Sr | 6-2 | 8.1 | 5.2 | 1.2 | |
| G | Destini Hughes | Sr | 5-10 | 7.4 | 2.8 | 2.7 | |
| G | Jeanne Kenney | So | 5-8 | 5.1 | 2.5 | 3.2 |
(Note: at time of writing, Stricklen's status was uncertain. She is likely not playing, but her replacement in the starting lineup is unknown.)
LSU is a bizarre team to understand and are best understood by first knowing where they came from. After the Pokey Chatman scandal forced her resignation in early 2007, Van Chancellor went to LSU to coach in the 2007-2008 season. Riding off the immense talent that Chatman had brought in, he went undefeated in SEC play and went to LSU's fourth consecutive Final Four. But after that year, LSU lost seven seniors (!!), including Sylvia Fowles, they never recovered. Their 30-win seasons became 20 win seasons and their Final Fours fell to 2nd round loss, and then eventually missing the tournament entirely. Nikki inherited a team that had been largely recruited with hopes of continuing LSU's success, but beaten down with the reality of a coach who was ready to retire. And so the rebuilding began.
Caldwell decided to rebuild the defense first, and LSU's defense is stout. Their opponents have averaged 47.5 points per game (and 48.4 in conference). LSU also averages over 40 rebounds, 5 blocks and 10 steals per game, with much of the defensive production coming from the bench (especially young trees Krystal Forthan, Taylor Turnbow, and Shanece McKinney). Playing LSU is an exercise in frustration on an entirely different level from Kentucky; where the Wildcats prefer to keep you from getting the ball across halfcourt, LSU adds a smothering halfcourt to their press.
The offense has not been as sharp as the defense, and LSU averages 64.6 points per game. But here's where the oddities in the stats begin to surface: they're one of the lowest-scoring teams in the SEC, but they have averaged a very good 44.7% from the field. It's indicative of a team that doesn't see a lot of possessions, partly due to taking a long time on offense and partly due to forcing opponents deep into the shotclock.
LSU does not shoot many threes and don't really have a dedicated three-point threat. Barrett is their most accurate shooter at 48.5%, but has taken just under 2 attempts per game. This game will not look like the Vanderbilt game, where the Commodores would dedicate up to 4 total players to free up Foggie for a shot. LSU wants the ball in the paint, and Tennessee will have to commit to denying the entry pass.
Prediction: 71 - 55 Tennessee. Fewer possessions but a couple breaks and a second half run to end it.
BassWatch™: 5 minutes left in the first. No more wonky lineups.
Chris: Nikki Caldwell would do well to learn from how the Tennessee lineup operates - or at least should operate. She's done a fantastic job turning LSU around (something we'd expect from a former and future Lady Vol), and once again the Lady Vols run into a former Summitt disciple who preaches and practices defense and rebounding. The difference? LSU doesn't have an answer to Vicki Baugh, let alone Glory Johnson. Given Stricklen's injury (and - no offense, Tigers - how much next Monday night matters), I'd be happy to let her sit out a game in favor of Baugh, who has a great tandem attack with Glory going at the moment. I'd be concerned where the other points are coming from - I'm reluctant to say Simmons, even though in theory this could be a great game for her to shoot daggers - but LSU's offense isn't anything to write home about. I'd be happy to see this game won on free throws; if Simmons would be so kind as to get to the line, maybe I'll back off her a bit. This won't be particularly pretty, but unlike another team I can easily think of, the Lady Vols can win ugly.
69-48 Tennessee. Bass doesn't see the floor until the 9 minute mark of the second half. Please?
Bonus prediction: one LSU post defender fouls out.
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Baugh starts in place of Stricklen.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
$immons!
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
3licia!
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Still, at the under-16, it's all Courtney Jones.
8-6 LSU.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
$$immons!?!?
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
That being said:
/piddle
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
If a Pendley talks to himself in a GameThread
Does he make any noise?
VolnVA - January 19, 2012
Hoop will wander in eventually.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Also, free comment-padding!
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
This is a Simmons game.
2-5 from the floor (both threes), 3 TO.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
This is hideous.
The Lady Vols are just now shooting 33% from the floor. They’re still down two.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
er, 30.8%
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
ummmmm ....3ierra
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Finally. Five quick points, Ladies up two.
This has been ugly, though. They miss Stricklen. Also, Glory’s only had two shots all game; Jones has been playing out of her mind.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Glory's finally on the board.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Also, they're solving the rotation issues by not rotating.
Burdick came in for Baugh.
That’s it.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Barrett picks up her second. Burdick to the line.
Only the 5th and 6th FTs attempted today, though.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
This doesn't look to good Chris
Wonder what the story is on Spani
aurabass - January 19, 2012
Severe bone bruise or something.
I’m a little disconcerted at this point. But the one source of offense – the Glory-Baugh combo – hasn’t been used at all this half.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Our highly praised trainers don't seem to work very fast
I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a player without a non-ACL MCL injury out so long
aurabass - January 19, 2012
Great Glory drive blown layup
aurabass - January 19, 2012
We Are Who We Think We Are?
bobothevol - January 19, 2012
We Are Watching Twin Teams
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Glory with a blow-by awesome move? Sweet.
Misses the wide open layup. V O L S GO VOLS GO!
bobothevol - January 19, 2012
WOO ALL BACKUP LINEUP (plus Glory)
Bass, Kamiko, Harrison, Burdick, Glory.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
So there we go, Glory gone.
Looks like an Owie Shoulder, but not a Bad Owie.
bobothevol - January 19, 2012
Might be a Bad Owie.
bobothevol - January 19, 2012
It's almost the half.
That’s what I’m telling myself, at least.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
That's what I figure too.
With nothing else to figure.
bobothevol - January 19, 2012
And Glory's going to the locker room early.
Sheesh.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
So the good news is... We're Winning at half!
This is the extent of the good news.
bobothevol - January 19, 2012
Tied.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
This is what I get for not watching the last 30 seconds.
So here is the good news: _____________
bobothevol - January 19, 2012
That's not good.
I missed what happened, though. Broken ankle?
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
...I'm gonna guess that's career ending.
That’s awful.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Fill me in?
bobothevol - January 19, 2012
I don't totally know.
LSU player – Destiny Hughes – went up for a loose ball and landed horribly.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Probably broken.
I tuned in just in time to catch it. Ugly.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Looked to me like the right knee and ankle could be involved
the knee bent in towards the floor in an odd manner and the ankle
did likewise
aurabass - January 19, 2012
Yup.
Could be either. Or both.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Announcers just called it a knee injury
aurabass - January 19, 2012
I rewatched it.
As she tried to pivot, Brianna Bass tripped over her foot. Basically, her right leg was bent with pretty much all her weight on it, and the ankle was torqued over, counter-clockwise. So whatever knee tendons that would strain were the ones that got hurt.
It was a pretty hard torque, too.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
So how's it goi-
…
oh.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
And Glory went to the locker room early after she got dinged up.
/wrists
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Kinda looked like a separation.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Yeah.
Pop it back in and let’s go?
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Depends on the type of separation/dislocation.
I don’t remember all the categories, but some are easier to handle and would just require a touch more tape.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
we can't afford that
aurabass - January 19, 2012
Also: is it 3ierra?
If she keeps this up, we may have to dredge up a take on Chi$$le.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
3urdick?
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Eh, I like 3ierra more.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Rolls off the tongue.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
I think so too.
3 for B worked with Bjorklund largely because of pronunciation. Same with 3ierra.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Yup. It's gonna be up to Baugh.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Jones just clowned Manning.
What?
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
$$$immons?!?!?!
See, that is the shot she needs to take.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
So how do you guys think this coaching by committee thing is going?
if you would care to share your views
aurabass - January 19, 2012
I ....well.
Tough to ask that question tonight (what are you going to do in a close game without your three best players?). But I think it’s been adequate enough.
Ask again later.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
In-game rotation is the biggest concern.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
I'm not referring to tonight - overall is the thing
maybe a fanpost thread would be better than trying to sneak it in here
aurabass - January 19, 2012
Hoop and I have been talking.
I think there will be something up soon, so just lump it in there.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Baugh needs the ball more, I think.
Massengale and Simmons have 18 shots combined. The rest of the team has 19.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Tough to pass in against LSU's zone.
But yes.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
I agree with that
aurabass - January 19, 2012
That was doing no favors.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
That being said: I've been impressed with Burdick.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Glory checks in!
Admit it, you just released a breath you didn’t know you were holding.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
LSU takes a 39-37 lead with 13:00 left.
bobothevol - January 19, 2012
I hope Stricklen is watching this and taking notes.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Making free throws would be nice.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
and Baugh scoring when she's got it in close
aurabass - January 19, 2012
The interior rotation has been as good as expected.
The guards are gonna need some oxygen.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
See, *that* is how you use Bass if the game is close.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Glory's shoulder is hurting.
Had to be a separation/dislocation thingy. Whichever is the better of the two.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Betting it got popped back in.
Eat your heart out, Lamichael.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Yup.
Knowing Glory, I’m kinda surprised she didn’t have it done on the sideline.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
She's holding it down and playing with one arm
a two armed Izzy might be the better option
aurabass - January 19, 2012
Wow. Patience on the drive to force the defender to back away from Glory.
Way to go, Simmons.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
After the first few minutes, I've been quietly impressed with her game.
I think she knows she needs to slow up before a shot, and she is.
Sometimes.
/tinkle
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Well, hello Cierra.
I didn’t see you there, lurking on the bench and being a legitimate scoring option.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Feeling much better about next year already.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
I'm not.
Now, two years from now?
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Well, that for sure.
But it’s all relative. I went from “the Mayans were right” kinda bad feeling to “maybe reason to hope” kinda bad.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Manning's going to sub in for Glory.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Yup. Did she get knocked down or just wipe out on her own?
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Collision with an LSU player. Not sure how much was whose fault.
But a definite collision.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Wonder if anyone keeps stats on how many TO's are taken by team
I would bet Tennessee leaves more TO’s unused than any SEC opponent
aurabass - January 19, 2012
Probably.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Neat pass from Simmons.
Really. That was just weird.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
she did better on the receiving end but missed the open chippie
aurabass - January 19, 2012
To be fair, the double slant fast break route is hard to hit.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
the pass or the shot?
aurabass - January 19, 2012
The pass.
Someone should’ve separated to the corner there, actually. I don’t put that entirely on Simmons.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
See? That was smart.
It’s there. It’s in her head. She knows, and yet.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Yup.
She’s on her way.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Okay. Where's Ariel?
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Okay. Where's Ariel?
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
And why is Simmons on the point with Bass in the game?
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Coming in next.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
4 on Barrett!
Whee!
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
It's the 7 that I'm happy about.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Me too.
But now I can hope for 5 and be really happy.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Barrett on 4.
Now, I don’t know how much that matters – Courtney Jones has been insane.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
And there it is.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Video Game Comment:
Traded in MW3, had a 15$ Gift Card, got Portal 2, Fable 3, and Sacred 2 (don’t hate) for my 360 for $3.22
bobothevol - January 19, 2012
Nice.
How’s Skyrim going?
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Destini Hughes, the injured girl
is still fourth in minutes for LSU this game.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Hey, Simmons is only 5 TO away from a double-double!
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
She has to be there on missed shots
aurabass - January 19, 2012
Yup.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Use a TO Pat - you can't take them with you
aurabass - January 19, 2012
/psychic'd
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
That could've been a lot worse.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
HEY GUYS HAS ANY FORMER PLAYER BEATEN SUMMITT?
I DON’T KNOW COULD SOMEBODY TELL ME?
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
You need the
sarcasm fontmaybe?aurabass - January 19, 2012
Has Miko been in at all?
aurabass - January 19, 2012
Yeah, couple minutes in the first half.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
So she's good to go but the coaches prefer Bass
aurabass - January 19, 2012
Yeah. I ...well, we'll talk about it.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Yeah, for later
but I’m guessing they want one of Simmons or Massengale on the floor at all times, and that’s their way of ensuring they don’t get stuck with Williams and Bass while the others need a rest.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
I guess.
But they were doing this even with Stricklen around.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Barrett's back in.
Get her.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
I ...really?
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Welcome to TBA
where refs feel they must prove the crowd wrong.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
It's not normally this egregious, though.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
It's my current theory.
That refs aren’t used to fans who are so vocal (and usually so correct). Some deal with it well; others get testy.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Yeah; this isn't quite the bandwagoning fan crowd.
Or they might be, but the bandwagon’s been so big the original bandwagoners are taking their kids to the game. Tough to not learn then.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
And it's sometimes a lot easier to see the fouls in the women's game.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
A normal FT night and we'd be up eight right now.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Finally a Simmonsish shot from LSU
aurabass - January 19, 2012
I don't mind them jacking threes.
They’re not really built for that. They’ll start rushing those shots in a bit.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Well, that's one way to give LSU the bonus.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
no no no no no no okay cool
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Well, that sucked for LSU.
Barrett with an apparent (incidental) elbow in the nose, but UT took long enough with the ball that she was back up, so LSU had to call the timeout rather than get the free stoppage due to injury .
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Wait, concussion?
What?
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
I missed that.
who?
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Not sure.
How?
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Heh.
But seriously, I missed it.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Simmons is actually better at 6 for 16 than I thought
ESPN box score
Ariel at 1 fo 10 is worse
aurabass - January 19, 2012
She's like 6 for 10 on legitimate shots, though.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Glory doing her flying routine with that leap
aurabass - January 19, 2012
She's not 100%, but even at 60% she's better than Harrison.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Barrett out?
Yes.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
now LSU is down 2 of their starters like TN
aurabass - January 19, 2012
Pretty sure I just heard Summitt yell "NO FOULS".
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Wow. Lucky, that.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
WOO MAKEUP CALL
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Man-to-man? Hey look, Glory drew a foul.
Smart to stay in zone nearly all game, though.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Hate those fouls off the ball in the last minute.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
that should just about do it
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Burdick Breadsticks?
aurabass - January 19, 2012
I think so.
Especially for the surprise. Baugh had a beast game on the boards, though. And Simmons actually had a pretty good game, but …yeah, Burdick.
Or Stricklen, who indirectly was the MVP tonight.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
And now we're in free throws.
Man, Nikki Caldwell is gonna look good in orange.
Again.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Amen
aurabass - January 19, 2012
Bill James declares it over.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Wow. LSU conceding when most teams keep fouling.
Smart understanding of the clock by UT’s next head coach.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
I think I got the prediction that time.
fwiw
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Yup.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Breadsticks?
Burdick? Tough between her, Simmons, and Baugh.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Definitely Burdick for my vote
aurabass - January 19, 2012
I think it's gotta be Burdick.
Simmons going 16 to get 19 was …well, okay. But this team needed someone to replace Stricklen’s scoring, and it was Burdick, not Simmons.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Also: 31 minutes off the bench for Burdick.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Sooooo nice to have a solid midrange jumper in the lineup.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
I agree with the two of you as well.
Particularly for somebody who is normally a reserve.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
I've got Mickey on to hear his POG.
Aside: I’m going to be curious to hear how things go with Hughes. Her college career’s done, unfortunately.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Mickey goes with Burdick.
Will be fun to hear her interview.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Welp, I was wrong.
Good eyes.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
He'll pick Simmons.
WOO POINTS
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
lol
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Hey, fwiw, we actually shut down their leading scorer.
Barrett was 1-9 for 6 points.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Yeah. the D was good all game.
I’m shocked that a game involving Caldwell and CPS came down to defense and rebounding.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
shockedDavid Hooper - January 19, 2012
now you've got it
I just learned that this week
aurabass - January 19, 2012
We used to use it a lot more.
We tend to get lazy, so it goes in cycles.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
I've never had to use it to drive a point home.
I’m just good like that.
::cough::
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
I imagine Stricklen will be back for Notre Dame.
Glory will be fine. But still, that’s an on-the-road game I’m not looking forward to.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
I predict a fail at ND
sorry to say
aurabass - January 19, 2012
I'd agree.
No reason to believe otherwise.
If Spani’s back, you might be able to talk me into it though.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Me too.
Have to give props to ND. They’re a seriously good team.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
2nd half rebounding: 25 UT, 16 LSU.
Much better.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
G'nite guys - thanks for the conversation
i will look for that coaching committee post
aurabass - January 19, 2012
Take care.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Enjoy.
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
I would've been much closer to the prediction if they had made their free throws like normal.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Cierra said that Stricklen talked to her pregame and told her that this was going to be her game.
That had to feel good.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
See? Leader.
grumble grumble
Chris Pendley - January 19, 2012
Re: defense:
I’ve been struggling. I wear a size 13 1/2 shoe and these things don’t move as fast as I want them to sometimes.
Heh.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
Vandy's getting steamrolled by Arkansas.
57-35 with 8 1/2 to go. I could have seen Arky winning, but I didn’t see that coming.
David Hooper - January 19, 2012
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